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The Fifth Commandmentisone of the most complex and troublesome sidequestsinKingdom Come: Deliverance 2.However, it’s a necessary step to reach one of the best possible endings in the game, as well as to romance Katherine. If you’re having trouble solving the murder of Katherine’s friends, here’s a detailed guide on this troublesome quest, including all the information about the investigation, which dialogue choices to pick, and how to catch the Serial Killer.
How To Start The Fifth Commandment
To start the Fifth Commandment sidequest,talk to Katherine in the Hangman’s Halter tavern.This will trigger a dialogue cutscene where she asks Henry for help to solve the murder of some of her friends.
The next stop is in thelocal cemetery, which is near the left side of the northern wall region. There will be a big detached building that looks like a chapel inside a big lot surrounded by walls and a small wooden door. Go through it andsearch for a man with a shovel, The Gravedigger.
Talking to him will be pretty straightforward. Simply tell the truth, and state that the investigation is important because Henry fears that the same thing could happen to a friend of his. The Gravedigger will open up and offer details about the crime. Finally,he will reveal an important detailabout one of Alice’s friends. Pay attention to this, andtalk to Barborabefore examining the body.
You’ll find Barbora praying in the small chapel next to Alice’s body. Henry should ask the usual questions every good medieval detective should ask: Did she frequent any taverns? Did she have a sweetheart or lover? Barbora will reveal thatLumir, the former Scribe from the Bailiff’s Rathouse,is involved in the investigation of the murders, and Henry should consult with him before proceeding.
Examine The Victim’s Body
Now comes the hard part: the autopsy. Passing someSurvivalandScholarship checksmight help Henry discern special details about the killing. But the things that interest him most are the way that the corpse was treated. It was disemboweled and drained of blood, and the victim died by strangling. These details will reveal that the crime scene would have been messy. So, one of the next stops is to visit the crime scene. The modus operandi of the perpetrator will also reveal that the person (or people) involved in the crime was strong enough to break her neck, another important fact.
Examine The Crime Scene
The crime happened on the opposite side of the city of Kuttenberg, near the western side of the north quarter, near the broken wall and the small pond that is marked on the map. Travel to that location and look for the obvious pool of blood lying in the mud.
The footprints around the scene make it impossible to discern if there were one or many attackers, but the blood pattern seems to indicate that the crime (or at least the gutting) happened in this zone. Talking to the nearby witness will not reveal much.Exhaust every dialogue optionwith the nearby blood pool to proceed.
Talk To Lumir
Before directing your attention to investigator Lumir, make a quick visit to the nearest Apothecary and purchasea Hair of The Dog Potion, bringing it with you when you go tofind Lumir. You will see him about to pass out due to a severe hangover, leaning on a building in an alley.
Approach him to start a conversation, offer him theHair of the Dog Potionto cure his hangover, and ask for the details about his investigation. Turns out the murderer might have left a trail, and some of the victims who survived the attacks could offer extra details that could lead to the murderer. Lumir will tell Henry that he needs to find the whereabouts ofZdena,Stanya, andJarka, and the investigation will turn into a manhunt.
Find Information About Zdena, Stanya, and Jarka
The next step of this quest requires some hardcore medieval sleuthing, so arm yourself with patience, charm, and Henry’s bestLion or Mintha Parfumeto persuade people to loosen their tongues. A long investigation process will lead players across Kuttenberg and beyond, to find what happened to three girls who are suspected of being the Serial Killer’s victims: Zdena, Stanya, and Jarka.
How To Find Zdena
You’ll findStrnadin thebackyard of Chennyek’s Thieves' Guild building, but he will be grumpy and drunk, so it will take convincing (a Hard Speech check) to make him spill the beans about Zdena. The girl had a ‘special’ relationship with a local fence, and it might be possible that they fled Kuttenberg together with their loot.
To find out more, travel toRabsteinand talk to the fence yourself. Once you reach the hamlet, search for a man named ‘Hired Hand Pint’ to learn the whereabouts of Zdena. As it turns out, Pint knows a lot about Zdena and her relationship with Strnad.Pintused to be Zdena’s fence, and it turns out that the girl is ‘stealing’ from the thieves and pocketing the loot for herself. He will reveal that she has a hideout nearby, and give Henry a Scarf he can use tofind the girl using Mutt’s Track command.
Head to the marked location, and look for a ford where there’s a blood splatter on the side of the road. Here, useMutt’s Track command to find Zdena. Sadly, they will arrive too late, since the girl has been dead for a long time. By examining the body, Henry can findZdena’s Ring, a valuable quest item that also represents a piece of this puzzle.
How To Find Stanya
Next, talk to the Innkeeper at the nearest tavern (The Hole in the Wall). Make him loosen up by saying Henry is ‘A Good Guest’ and then picking the option ‘They Spend Money,’ and finallygiving away a few Groschento make him talk about Stanya, the barmaid.
He says that Stanya used to work there, and explains that one day, he called for her and she didn’t turn up. He went to her room only to find it empty, as she had vanished during the night. All he found were bloody footprints, which seemed to indicate that Stanya was another victim of the serial killer. Since nothing in life comes for free, the Innkeeper will ask for moreGroschen (50 this time). Henry can also pass an Easy Speech check to avoid payingand keep finding out more. According to him, Stanya was bold enough to hang around some men, like a bard named William, and a charcoal burner named Barton from Vrchilitz. So, Henry’s next goal is to track down this mysterious Barton, who lives south of Kuttenberg.
Bartonis in the southern area of the Coal Burner camp. He is bald, wearing a brown coat. After spotting Barton, Henry will need to pass a couple of Hard Checks to make him spill the truth about Stanya. Turns out, she is hiding with them, since she survived the attack of the serial killer, and she is afraid to go outside again. Barton will warn Henry that if he needs to talk to Stanya, he has to be nice to her.Stanya is hidden in the cottage behind Barton, so it won’t be hard to find her.
Stanya tells Henry that someone attacked her when she was coming back from the baths one night. She managed to get away, but she was so scared, she decided to flee Kuttenberg and stay with the Coalmakers. She also states that she didn’t see who attacked her. However, players will learn thatthe attacker was male, and he was German,since he cursed in that language when Stanya defended herself.
Passing two extra Speech Checks with Stanya will make her remember thatthere were two people waiting for her in the alley.The attacker had a strong grip, and Barton saidhe could be a Miner or a Swordsman. These are important details for the investigation.
How To Find Information About Jarka
Talk toFather Prokop in Kuttenberg’s Cemetery, next to the chapel where Alice’s body is being kept. Exhaust every possible dialogue option to inquire about the life and death of this victim. Pay attention to each of the questions:
The important part comes when inquiring whyFather Prokop doesn’t like Lumir.Either a Medium Scholarship check, or a hard Persuasion (speech) check will reveal that Lumir accused Father Prokop of murdering her own niece. When pressing even more (at the risk of losing some reputation), Father Prokop will also reveal thatJarka was pregnant.This revelation adds some context to the possibility of the Serial Killer picking girls who are in vulnerable situations.
How To Find The Culprit
Question William
Before returning to Lumir, players canquestion Williamthe Minstrel,who can be found southwest of Kuttenberg. Henry can pass a Hard check and gain some reputation, or go for the Easy Check and lose some reputation to make William break and confess all his ‘misdoings.’
Players can hard press him to confess, but they’ll get nothing out. He is only a Bard, and is not a serial killer. If players pay attention during the investigation, they will know he is not strong enough to subdue any of the victims anyway. When pressed for more information, he also reveals that he was never intimate with either Zdena or Jarka, ruling him out as the father of Jarka’s child.
Return To Lumir
Talk to Lumir once more, exhausting every possible dialogue choice, and avoid withholding any kind of information. Wait for him to call Katherine before summarizing the results of Henry’s investigation, and concluding that the one to blame isnone other but Von Grolle(since William and Prokop are innocent). Katherine suspected Father Prokop, and Lumir suspected William, but after Henry reveals all the information, the only logical conclusion will be the least expected. Both the ring found in Zdana’s body and Stanya’s testimony will be critical to figuring out the truth.
The outcome of The Fifth Commandment plays a crucial role inthe path to Romancing Katherine. Make sure to take her side at the end of the quest to open the way for the achievement later the adventure.
In the final conversation, pick the choices that discard WIlliam and Prokop as Suspects, since all the information flow seems to point out to the Van Grolle Matriarch and her son Handl. To reach the final conclusion, pick up the following dialogue options:
This will lead the crew to conclude that the evidence points to these alleged culprits.
How To Access The Von Grolle’s Estate & Investigate Hendl’s Room
Talk to the servant Thaddeus, who is keeping watch at the door. Pick any of the checks, either the Easy Survival/Alchemy checks, or the Medium Scholarship check. If players have previously completedThe Thunderstone Side Questand kept the stone, they can also state that the precious artifact is in their power, which will grant them access without a check.
Inside, talk to Madelina Von Grolle to ‘announce yourself’ and find out more information about Master Von Grolle’s illness. You do not particularly need to complete this optional task, but doing so will result in extra rewards and reputation. One importantHard checkduring the questioning of Madelline Von Grolle will reveal that her husband’liked to go around with women,' and she seems disgusted about that.
If you decide to heal the Master of the house, climb the stairs and treat him right ahead. Watch out for young Hendl Von Grolle, since he will be alerted by the minimal noise near his room and start rummaging around the chests, acting suspiciously.
To treat Master Von Grolle, exhaust every option and pass several checks before deciding to treat him using aPainkiller Decoction, aDigestive Potion, and somefriendly adviceon how to eat healthier and overcome his miserable marital life. Alternatively, you cansurrender the Thunderstoneto him to make him feel better, though by doing so,Henry will lose it forever. After treating Von Grolle Sr., he will call for his son, and Henry can talk to Madelina to receive a hefty sum of 275 Groschen.
Now, go ahead and investigate Young Von Grolle’s Room. Enter this room in stealth to prevent alerting its owner, and go to the chest next to his bed. Use a Strong Quickfinger Potion to open it easily, since it is a Hard Lock. Inside, you’ll will find the ‘Trophies from victims’ quest item.
How To Complete The Fifth Commandment in Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2
Returning to Lumir with the evidence will trigger the final part of this long side quest. Katherine will offer herself as bait to force Hendl Von Grolle to come out as the Serial Killer, so stick around and watch the cutscene while Katherine performs her best role so far.
After the cutscene, Katherine is attacked in her room by Thaddeus and Madeline Von Grolle. Henry will be left alone to deal with the murderous servant. After beating him in a sword duel, players can force him to confess and then dispose of that sick murderer, or let the justice deal with him. This is up to the players to decide.
Now, you have a choice: to let Katherine slice Madeline Von Grolle, or let justice be done in the righteous way. If you wish to romance Katherine, pick the bloody vengeance option. After that, The Fifth Commandment will be over and players can collect theirrewards:
